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Aug 5, 2019

The Dayton Ohio Shooting Highlights The Very Well Documented Mental Health Crisis In America And The Link Between Mental Illness And Mass Shootings

Given the cultural context I think this shooter may have been inspired by the El Paso terrorist shooting and other such shootings to take action but his anger took the form of vengeance for personal complaints and he was a leftist. All his targets were personal and not political, i.e. he wasn't targeting Republicans or any other political group, he was targeting people he didn't like from school. In other words, what we may have here is an example of untreated mental illness as he is known to have a hit list for boys and rape list for girls in his school...

Classmates say Dayton gunman had a 'hit list' in high school

(CNN)As a high school student, the gunman in the Dayton, Ohio, massacre had a "hit list" of classmates he wanted to kill or hurt, according to four former students who said they were told by school officials they were on the list.

Spencer Brickler said a counselor at Bellbrook High School told him that he and his sister were on Connor Betts' hit list. Brickler said he was riding on a school bus when he saw Betts getting escorted off by officers who were investigating the threats.

"He was kind of dark and depressive in high school," said Brickler, who recalled the incident occurring about nine years ago when he was a freshman. He said he had no idea what prompted Betts, then a sophomore, to put him or his sister on the list.

The information has taken on new significance now that Betts has been identified as the gunman who killed nine people early Sunday morning in a popular nightlife district in downtown Dayton, authorities said. Police officers on patrol nearby immediately responded and killed Betts less than a minute after he opened fire, authorities said.
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Another former classmate, who asked not to be identified out of concerns for his privacy, also recalled being summoned to a school administrator's office and being told he was "number one" on the list of students Betts wanted to kill. 

He said the list was separated into two columns: a "kill list" for boys and a "rape list" for girls.


Said another way, lack of socialization and increasing anger caused a psychotic break. There were probably many signs of his mental breakdown way before the incident. A sharp decline in mental health services due to (I'm guessing) Republican led budget cuts to save money for their donors is probably a factor here. By comparison the El Paso shooter was a regular right wing psycho driven crazy by Fox News lies (a normal pattern) and was inspired by Trump (the Trump effect to traditional right wing terror) but he also saw Trump getting attacked in the media because of his support for hate and discrimination and seeks to protect him by trying to above him of guilt for his crimes. The following extracts show what a big problem the mental health crisis in America is and its relation to mass shootings where applicable.


LA Times: Op-Ed: Actually, there is a clear link between mass shootings and mental illness
According to our research, at least 59% of the 185 public mass shootings that took place in the United States from 1900 through 2017 were carried out by people who had either been diagnosed with a mental disorder or demonstrated signs of serious mental illness prior to the attack. (We define a mass public shooting as any incident in which four or more victims are killed with a gun within a 24-hour period at a public location in the absence of military conflict, collective violence or other criminal activity, such as robberies, drug deals or gang turf wars.)
Mother Jones found a similarly high rate of potential mental health problems among perpetrators of mass shootings — 61% — when the magazine examined 62 cases in 2012.
Both rates are considerably higher than those found in the general population — more than three times higher than the rate of mental illness found among American adults, and about 15 times higher than the rate of serious mental illness found among American adults.

It’s possible for mass public shootings to be both a gun problem and a mental health problem.

And yet this nuance often gets lost in mainstream news reports. In a story that largely suggested mass murderers are not “insane,” the New York Times cited research showing that, in fact, mass murderers are nearly 20 times more likely to have a “severe” mental illness than the general population.
According to our research, only one-third of the people who have committed mass shootings in the U.S. since 1900 had sought or received mental health care prior to their attacks, which suggests that most shooters did not seek or receive care they may have needed.
This treatment gap is underscored by evidence showing that the U.S. has higher rates of untreated serious mental illness than most other Western countries. Additional research shows that the gap is even larger for males, who have committed 99% of the country’s mass public shootings.
Although the link between mass shootings and mental illness has only recently gained widespread recognition, the correlation itself is longstanding. Indeed, we see it in some of the earliest such shootings in the U.S. Gilbert Twigg, who opened fire on a concert crowd in Winfield, Kan., in 1903, killing nine, had displayed signs of paranoia beforehand. Howard Unruh, who shot and killed 13 people in Camden, N.J., in 1949, was later diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. (Both were also Army veterans who had seen combat.)
Read more.


Cummings Institute On Effects Of Budget Cuts To Mental Health Services; Since states have reduced their health care funding by billions of dollars, many mental health care facilities in the United States are experiencing negative side effects. The budget cuts have caused an increase in emergency room visits for patients seeking mental health treatment with a total of 5.5 million seeking care in these facilities. It cost hospitals $38.5 billion to take care of these patients alone. This amount of spending could be significantly reduced by integrating mental health professionals within the ER and hospital settings.
To learn more about the effects of mental health care budget cuts, check out this infographic created by the Cummings Institute’s Doctorate in Behavioral Health degree program. Read more.

The Daily Crisis Cops Aren’t Trained to Handle Ten percent of 911 calls involve mental health situations that most police aren’t prepared to deal with, leading to sometimes tragic outcomes.


Late one night, while riding along with a police officer on patrol, the mayor of Fishers, Ind., asked the officer what kinds of calls most concerned him. He got an unexpected answer: mental health situations. They were occurring almost once a shift.
Mental illness isn’t readily visible in a place like Fishers, an affluent suburb of Indianapolis with just under 90,000 residents. “In our community,” Mayor Scott Fadness says, “there are a lot of people living in quiet despair and suffering from mental health issues, but they’re not being addressed in a systemic way.”
In the country as a whole, mental health situations are responsible for about 1 in 10 police calls. Many stem from undiagnosed conditions unknown to police and first responders. The consequences can be tragic. While about 3 percent of U.S. adults suffer from a severe mental illness, they make up a quarter to one-half of all fatal law enforcement encounters, according to the nonprofit Treatment Advocacy Center. Similarly, a recent internal review by the Los Angeles Police Department reported that 37 percent of police shootings last year involved suspects with documented signs of mental illness.
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“When I became a police officer in 1977, we had health facilities,” Woody says. “Now, there’s no place to take them to.”
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 [Importance]


Mental Illness Policy.org: Survey: Police needlessly overburdened by mentally ill abandoned by mental health system.

Calls for greater use of Assisted Outpatient Treatment

A nationwide survey of 2,406 senior law enforcement officials (75% who were officers longer than 20 years) documents police and sheriffs are being overwhelmed “dealing with the unintended consequences of a policy change that in effect removed the daily care of our nation’s severely mentally ill population from the medical community and placed it with the criminal justice system.” …This policy change has caused a spike in the frequency of arrests of severely mentally ill persons, prison and jail population and the homeless population…(and) has become a major consumer of law enforcement resources nationwide.”
The unpublished survey, Management of the Severely Mentally Ill and its Effects on Homeland Security was conducted by Michael C. Biasotti, VP, NYS Chiefs of Police at the Naval Postgraduate School and calls for implementation of Assisted Outpatient Treatment (AOT) laws as a way to lead people with severe untreated mental illness back into the mental health system and to force the system to accept responsibility for their care.
AOT allows courts–after extensive due process–to order a subset of severely mentally ill individuals–only those who have a past history of dangerous behavior, arrest, incarceration or multiple hospitalizations–to accept treatment as a condition of living in the community. The court order can also require the mental health system to deliver the treatment, monitor compliance, and evaluate people who fail to comply to see if they are becoming ‘danger to self or others’. Chief Besoot argues this “highly cost-effective policy… would assist in correcting the current situation, which is needlessly draining law enforcement resources nationwide.” He points out that most people with mental illness are not more violent than others, but there is a subgroup of the most seriously ill, who often refuse treatment, who are well-known to law enforcement and do offend repeatedly. (See 115 Law Enforcement Officers Killed by Mentally Ill)
According to the survey:
  • 84.28 percent (or 1,866) of the law enforcement respondents said there been an increase in the mentally ill population over the length of their career
  • 63.03 percent (n=1,391) of respondents reported the amount of time that their department spends on calls for service involving individuals with mental illness increased (during their career). An additional 17.72 percent reported that the time spent had substantially increased, totaling 70.7 percent (n=1,782) of respondents reporting an increase.
  • 56% said the increase in calls is due to the inability to refer mentally ill to treatment and 61% said more persons with mental illness are being released to the community.
  • The officers claimed that mental illness related calls take significantly longer than larceny, domestic dispute, traffic, and other calls.

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The report recommends:
  1. Federal guidelines should be established mandating court-ordered assisted outpatient treatment programs in every state along the lines of Arizona’s treatment laws so that law enforcement, physicians, and families are not forced to wait until the dangerous level is reached. The recommended change in the laws should include a “need for treatment standard” rather than relying sole upon “dangerous to self or others.” Such laws would eliminate the need to wait until violence is threatened or perpetrated before taking action, providing for a safer community. Without a nationally governed framework severely mentally ill persons would be able to move from state to state with no monitoring of their current mental health status.
  2. States should enact new assisted outpatient treatment laws incorporating within those laws the revised standards. Federal funding should be tied to each state’s cooperation in effectively implementing and monitoring the AOT laws within their state. Currently few states actually use the AOT laws that are already in place.
  3. For the severely mentally ill population who have a past record of violence when not in treatment, regular supervision ensuring compliance with treatment needs to be conducted and overseen by each state’s department of mental health.
  4. A registry similar to the child abuse hotline system should be put in place including a mandatory reporter system, composed of professionals such as social workers, teachers and other school personnel, physicians and other health care workers and law enforcement officers. They would be required to notify the state office of mental health upon contact with an obviously psychotic person who is either exhibiting signs of possible harm to himself or others or is in obvious need of psychiatric assistance. A mandated reporter system may have helped to prevent the January 8, 2011 Tucson mass shooting of 14 persons, including United States Representative Gabrielle Giffords. Although the shooter, Mr. Jared Lee Loughner, had exhibited psychotic behavior and was described as dangerous, even to the point that his college expelled him and refused readmission until after he had received a psychiatric care, no policy existed that would have required his professors to report their concerns to the office of mental health.

Note: This doesn't change the fact that not allowing nukes have resulting in no nuclear explosions and the fact that fighter jets and Apache helicopters haven't been made available to the people there haven't been incidents involving those war machines either. The frequency and deadliness of mass shooting have increased since the assault rifle ban wasn't renewed, though (meaning that tactic had some effect but probably wasn't enough). Mental health is an important issue but its not the only issue. The other issue is easily available guns to help with gun sales by the NRA (formerly an organization committed to safety and not terror).

The NRA, Right Wing & Guns

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  • Trump Brags About His Test For Dementia As If It Were An Actual Intelligence Test Proving He's Too Mentally Handicapped To Handle ANY Real Job That Isn't Being A Janitor!
    Related: Trump Is Crazy. There's No Denying It. Just Accept It. We Have A Completely Mad President And A Party That Wants A Mad Man In O...
  • How Mainstream Media Helps The Republicans Lie To The People - Part 8 (Helping Cover Up GOP Discrimination Against Jews)
    Background: 1.  How Mainstream Media Helps The Republicans Lie To The People - Part 7 2.  Media Fear Offending Right Wing America While The ...
  • How Mainstream Media Helps The Republicans Lie To The People - Part 3
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  • How Mainstream Media Helps The Republicans Lie To The People - Part 1
    Related:  Media Matters Proves Corporate Media's Journalists Aren't Real Journalists Media Matters:  Senate Republicans waited until...
  • How Mainstream Media Helps The Republicans Lie To The People - Part 4
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  • "Accuse The Other Of Which You Are Guilty" - GOP's Nazi Mirror Tactic Example 2 - Mitch McConnell
    Context/Background: 1.  Fox News Are Just White Supremacists Using "The Nazi Mirror Tactic" Being Given A Free Pass By The Media ...
  • Is The Missing Link Between Man And Ape Psychological? Since We All Seemed To Have Evolved From The Same Root/Source Species?
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Introduction To Culture

  • What is the difference between culture and society?
  • History: The earliest evidence of ritual and myth part 1
  • The earliest evidence of ritual and myth part 2
  • Daniel Quinn’s theories on culture and civilization part 1
  • Daniel Quinn’s theories on culture and civilization part 2
  • Daniel Quinn’s theories on culture and civilization part 3
  • Daniel Quinn’s theories on culture and civilization part 4
  • Could American psychology have a major Native American influence?
  • Jared Diamond’s ‘Guns, Germs and Steel’ Part 1 – Out of Eden
  • Jared Diamond’s ‘Guns, Germs and Steel’ Part 2 – Conquest and the Tropics
  • Joseph Campbell puts culture and society in perspective
  • Reflection of Cultural Perspectives Through Gardening
  • Psychology: An introduction to the use of psychology in understanding culture and society
  • Having More Than One Head... Do Myths, Such As Medusa, Contain Slivers of Truth?
  • How Can Psychiatrists Be Allowed To Prescribe A Physical Substance For A Mental Disease That Has No Biological Source?
  • Has The USA Become Like A Sort Of Disneyland?
  • American Lion: Andrew Jackson in The Whitehouse
  • Founding Brothers: The Revolutionary Generation (Book Review)
  • The Constitution Is A Liberal Document & The Founding Fathers Were Liberals
  • Our Title Comes Second. What We Are (CITIZENS) Comes First. - Obama

Learning & Education

  • Prelude to a new article series on education
  • Learning and Education With The 'Socratic Method'
  • The Power Of Your Brain: Brain Plasticity & IQ Enhancement
  • How Emotions Cloud Judgement: An Introduction To True Empathy
  • Introduction To NLP, It's Therapeutic Models & The 5 Minute Phobia Cure (With A Talk By Richard Bandler)
  • Basics of Body Language and Lie Detection
  • Book Review: What Is Intelligence? - The Flyn Effect
  • Problems With The "No Child Left Behind" Act In 3 Interviews
  • Education Part 1 - The Problem Of Psychiatric Drugs
  • How Can Psychiatrists Be Allowed To Prescribe A Physical Substance For A Mental Disease That Has No Biological Source?
  • The Fragmentation of Knowledge Part 1 [Or, The case against over-specialization in theory based academics]

Animals

  • Animals And Humans Share DNA, A Nervous System, Intelligence, Creativity And Emotions (Such As Empathy)
  • The Modern Dodo: Meet The Flightless Parrot Called The Kakapo
  • Incredible Animals: A Look At Elephant Intelligence (They Can Paint, Count, Communicate etc.)
  • Incredible Animals: A Look At Parrot Intelligence
  • Incredible Animals: A Look At Raccoon Intelligence
  • Incredible Animals: A Look At Whale Intelligence
  • Incredible Animals: A Look At Dolphin Intelligence

Media's War On The People

  • Mainstream Media's War On The People: Media Silence On Fox News & The GOP's Continued Incendiary Rhetoric, Given The Insurrection, Indicates Complicity
  • Mainstream Media's War On The People Part 1: Treating Majority Views Of Democrats As Extreme & Extremist Views Of Republicans As Normal

Politics

  • Politics Update: The GOP & Fox News Take Domestic Terrorism To New Levels
  • After Helping Trump Lie & Deceive The People For Four Years, On Trump's Last Day, Mitch McConnell Pretends to Be Honorable After Avoiding To Impeach Trump For Treason, Again!
  • Trump's Top 100 Scandals That The Trump Presidential Library Is Going To Have To Explain Away
  • Tucker Carlson Is Going Out Of His Way To Help Trump Get People Sick With Coronavirus

GOP's Height Of Hypocrisy Series

  • Politics - Past Links 9
  • Seth Meyers: Trump And His Allies Are Lying In The Exact Same Ways The Bush Administration Lied Us Into A Catastrophic War In Iraq Nearly 17 years Ago
  • The Anti-Diplomacy And Anti-Deal Making Party: The GOP Used Bullying And Assassination To Start A War With Iran
  • The United States Of Russia: Why Is Trump Always Sucking Putin's Dick? And Why Are The GOP Joining Him? If You Can't Beat 'Em Join 'Em?
  • As Anti-American As A Party Can Get: Trump Sees Himself As A King And The GOP Are More Than Willing To Comply And Treat Him Like A King (Fighting A King Is What Created The USA In The First Place!)
  • Mitch McConnell: The Most Anti-American And Un-Constitutional Politician Of All Time?
  • Lindsey Graham's Hypocrisy On Impeachment Is Epic
  • Snapshot Of The Present: Colbert Calls The GOP "A Spineless Group of Self-Interested Toadies Who Would Rather See The Country Destroyed Then Stand Up To An Out Of Control, Narcissistic Toddler."
  • A Snapshot Of The Modern Political & Media Structure Under A GOP President (With Seth Meyers)
  • GOP Hypocrisy...The Republicans Basic Argument Is: We Are Going To Hurt & Betray The Country But You Should Be Nice To Us... While We Lie & Incite Terror!
  • Republicans Demonstrate What "The Height Of Hypocrisy" Looks Like & Fox "News" Ignores It!
  • Republicans Demonstrate What "The Height Of Hypocrisy" Looks Like & Fox "News" Ignores It! PART DEUX: The Golf Edition
  • Height Of Hypocrisy 3: Using Taxpayer Money For Personal Use Like Communists & Dictators
  • Height Of Hypocrisy 4: Republican Hypocrisy On The Deficit Is Epic!
  • Height Of Hypocrisy 5: Roy Moore Hypocrisy & Deficit Hypocrisy Show GOP Stand For Nothing. Not Family Values. Not Fiscal Responsibility. Nothing. Except Maybe Pedophiles.
  • Height Of Hypocrisy 6: GOP & Fox News Helps Trump In Obstruction Of Justice Showing They Don't Care About The Rule Of Law... And Now, The Nation Is in A Constitutional Crisis!
  • Height Of Hypocrisy 7: The Executive Order & Dictator/Tyrant Hypocrisy
  • GOP's Height Of Hypocrisy Series Part 8: Being Civil To The Uncivil Would Be An Atrocity! Fearing the Backlash the Trump Administration Calls For Civility After Showing None Since The Campaigning Days!
  • GOP's Height Of Hypocrisy Series Part 9: The Supreme Court Hypocrisy & Why Approving Any Trump Nominee To The Supreme Court Is A Bad Idea!
  • GOP's Height Of Hypocrisy Series Part 10: Rule of Law Hypocrisy - More Evidence Of The GOP Obstructing Justice & Other Constitutional Abuses
  • GOP Latest Hypocrisy On Healthcare... Inspired By My Explanation Of Why Trump Won In 2016?

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Quotes


"Make peace with the universe. Take joy in it. It will turn to gold. Resurrection will be now. Every moment, a new beauty." - Rumi

"God is a metaphor for that which transcends all levels of intellectual thought. It's as simple as that." - Joseph Campbell

“If a problem is fixable, if a situation is such that you can do something about it, then there is no need to worry. If it's not fixable, then there is no help in worrying. There is no benefit in worrying whatsoever.” - Dalai Lama

“Be empty of worrying. Think of who created thought! Why do you stay in prison. When the door is so wide open?” ― Rumi

"Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society." - George Washington

Xmas

  • Santa's Surprise
  • Animation: Jack Frost (1934)
  • Animation: The Star Of Bethlehem
  • Animation: A Christmas Tree (1959)
  • The "War On Christmas"... Exposed!
  • Animation: The Christmas Visitor (1959)
  • Samantha Bee's 2018 Christmas Special
  • Christmas Cartoon: Christmas Night (1933)
  • Movie: Santa Clause Conquers the Martians
  • Christmas Special: Jon Stewart On Christmas
  • Christmas Carol - An Animated Movie (Cartoon)
  • Christmas Special 2017: The War On Christmas
  • "The War On Christmas" ... Exposed! (Part Deux)
  • Christmas Movie: A Christmas Without Snow (1980)
  • Christmas Sing-A-Long Cartoon: Snow Foolin' (1949)
  • Christmas Cartoon: Somewhere In Dreamland (1936)
  • Cartoon: Santa and the Three Bears (1970 - 45 mins)
  • Christmas Cartoon: Rudolph, The Red Nose Reindeer
  • Animation: Christmas Comes But Once A Year (Cartoon)
  • "The War On Christmas"... Exposed! (The Colbert Edition)
  • Christmas Special: Stephen Colbert On Christmas - Part 1
  • Christmas Special: Stephen Colbert On Christmas - Part 2
  • Christmas Special: Stephen Colbert On Christmas - Part 3
  • Christmas Special: Stephen Colbert On Christmas - Part 4
  • Christmas Special: Stephen Colbert On Christmas - Part 5
  • Christmas Special: Stephen Colbert On Christmas - Part 6
  • Christmas Special 2017: Happy Christmas With The President!
  • Animation: The Shanty Where Santa Claus Lives (1933 - Christmas Cartoon)
  • Comedy Central's Non-Denominational Christmas Special (S1Ep101) - Part 1
  • Comedy Central's Non-Denominational Christmas Special (S1Ep101) - Part 2
  • Comedy Central's Non-Denominational Christmas Special (S1Ep101) - Part 3
  • Old Silent Christmas Movies: The Night Before Christmas (1908) & The Christmas Angel (1904)
  • A Christmas Carol - Movie & Audio Books - The 1st Silent Film & 1st Audio Film Of A Christmas Carol

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