Feb 8, 2017

Flashback: The 9/11 War Between Trump & Jeb Bush That Got 9/11 Truthers On Trumps Side (Alex Jones Being It's Most Schizophrenic But Visible Side)

1. Donald Trump Promised To Reopen The Investigation Into 9/11
2. Trump to Alex Jones To 9/11 ... Donald Trump Is A 9/11 Truther! "9/11 Was An Inside Job" COULD Be A General Election Argument!
3. Step-By-Step Mathematical Analysis Of The WTC 7 Free Fall Using A Commonly Available Physics Software
4. Facts VS Conspiracy Theories: How To Define Them Using Maddow Videos On Alex Jones

The following documents the war between Trump & the GOP establishment over 9/11 and the beliefs it spread (especially to 9/11 truthers). If Trump was implying he is going to have an open independent investigation into 9/11... NOW is the time to start it (or to push him to start it).

This was the one thing that most GOPers were able to unite behind, i.e. the official conspiracy thoery/story that defied facts yet was held to with religious devotion and the belief that any view contrary to their was a "conspiracy theory" or a liberal fanatic. (see article, links and other proofs below)

Before I outline the 9/11 war of words between Trump and Jeb Bush (& Bush supporters such as the GOP establishment ) I would like to point out that Trump started out strong on 9/11 and then turned to lies (which are more popular in GOP politics, especially if they demonize some group, which seems to be the bread and butter of GOP politics, i.e. with continued lies of Fox News the only way to win a GOP election is to demonize and ignore science like a 16th century inquisition official);

A question Team Trump finally facedFor months, Lawrence O'Donnell has been waiting for the Trump campaign to be asked one very simple question about his taxes. It finally happened and the Trump campaign manager was stunned.

The context? A lie about Muslims and 9/11 which is really quite unbelievable for a general election;

I've argued that Trump's rhetoric is no different from the GOP's rhetoric. The following are examples from recent times but the rhetoric online was just as toxic before Trump, if you take into account John McCain's flip flopping to his base, Trump can't be blamed as the sole reason for this rhetoric but as an influential part of the GOP machine;

Report: No evidence of trump 9/11 donation A new report says city officials found no record of a donation to 9/11 charities from Donald Trump for at least one year after the terror attacks, despite Trump’s pledge of $10,000 to the 9/11 Fund. New York City comptroller Scott Stringer joins Lawren...

Then the 9/11 war on words happened which cheered up everyone in the 9/11 truther movement (from the sensible ones to the psychotic ones like Alex Jones)

Donald Trump attacks George W. Bush on 9/11, Iraq: The Republican debate takes a dramatic turn as Donald Trump and Jeb Bush clash over former President George W. Bush's record on national security.

Donald Trump doubles down on George W. Bush 9/11 blame - Donald Trump doubled down on criticism of the George W. Bush administration's handling of the September 11th attacks and the invasion of Iraq.Source: CNN

Brietbart: Donald Trump Was Right To Hit Bush on 9/11 and Iraq

The following article summarizes the situation which I decided to put here in full (with the link to it) to provide context;

Crazy Nut Donald Trump Thinks George W. Bush Was President on 9/11

Republicans disagree internally on aspects of Bush’s domestic legacy, but his record on counterterrorism remains a point of unified party doctrine. Bush, they agree, Kept Us Safe. To praise the president who oversaw the worst domestic terrorist attack in American history for preventing domestic terrorism is deeply weird, and the only way this makes any sense is to treat 9/11 as a kind of starting point, for which his predecessor is to blame. (Marco Rubio, rushing to Dubya’s defense at Saturday night’s Republican debate, explained, “The World Trade Center came down because Bill Clinton didn’t kill Osama bin Laden when he had the chance to kill him.”) Trump not only pointed out that Bush was president on 9/11 and that the attacks that day count toward his final grade, but he also noted that Bush failed to heed intelligence warnings about the pending attack and that his administration lied to the public about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Conservatives have always dismissed such notions as far-left conspiracy theorizing, often equating it with the crackpot notion that 9/11 was an inside job. The ensuing freak-out at Trump’s heresy has been comprehensive. “It turns out the front-runner for the GOP nomination is a 9/11 ‘truther’ who believes Bush knew 9/11 was going to happen but did nothing to stop it,” says Marc Thiessen, the columnist and former Bush administration speechwriter. “Moreover, Trump says, Bush knew there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq but lied to the American people to get us into a Middle East war.” Trump is “borrowing language from MoveOn.org and Daily Kos to advance the absurd ‘Bush lied, people died’ Iraq War narrative,” cried National Review’s David FrenchWeekly Standard editor Bill Kristol demanded that, even should Trump win the nomination, fellow Republicans refuse to “conscientiously support a man who is willing to say something so irresponsible about something so serious, for the presidency of the United States.

In fact, Trump has not claimed that Bush had specific knowledge of the 9/11 attacks. He said, “George Bush had the chance, also, and he didn’t listen to the advice of his CIA.” That is correct. Bush was given numerous, detailed warnings that Al Qaeda planned an attack. But the Bush administration had, from the beginning, dismissed fears about terrorism as a Clinton preoccupation. Its neoconservative ideology drove the administration to fixate on state-supported dangers — which is why it turned its attention so quickly to Iraq. The Bush administration ignored pleas by the outgoing Clinton administration to focus on Al Qaeda in 2000, and ignored warnings by the CIA to prepare for an upcoming domestic attack. The Bush administration did not want the 9/11 attacks to occur; it was simply too ideological and incompetent to take responsible steps to prevent them.
It is certainly true that Trump took his attack a step too far when he insisted the Bush administration “knew” there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. All of the evidence suggests that the Bush administration, along with intelligence agencies in other countries, believed Saddam Hussein was concealing prohibited weapons. But the evidence is also very clear that the Bush administration manipulated the evidence it had to bolster its case publicly, like police officers framing a suspect they believed to be guilty.
The cover-up was grotesquely crude. Republicans in Congress insisted that the original commission investigating the issue confine itself to faulty intelligence given to the Bush administration and steer clear of manipulation by the Bush administration itself. The report stated this clearly: “Our executive order did not direct us to deal with the use of intelligence by policymakers, and all of us were agreed that that was not part of our inquiry.” It was not until a subsequent commission that the administration’s culpability was investigated. And that commission, which became known as the “Phase II” report, found that the Bush administration did indeed mislead the public: “[T]he Administration repeatedly presented intelligence as fact when in reality it was unsubstantiated, contradicted, or even non-existent.
You might think Republicans would have developed a sophisticated response, but they haven’t. Their defense for the last decade has consisted of claiming the Phase I report, which was forbidden from investigating the Bush administration, actually vindicated Bush, and ignoring the existence of the Phase II report. Today’s Wall Street Journal editorial does it again, calling the claim that Bush lied a “conspiracy theory,” which was refuted by — you guessed it — the Phase I report. (“Their report of more than 600 pages concludes that it was the CIA’s ‘own independent judgments — flawed though they were — that led them to conclude Iraq had active WMD programs.’”)

Trump crosses the 9/11 line‘If it doesn't backfire, then it will be official; nothing can stop him,’ GOP strategist says.: GREENVILLE, S.C. — Jeb Bush’s campaign thinks George W. Bush is its not-so-secret weapon in next Saturday’s pivotal primary. Donald Trump couldn’t care less. Holding a 20-point lead in the state over his nearest rival with a week to go, Trump blasted the former president for the national security record his brother’s campaign plans to tout, blaming him during a GOP debate Saturday night not just for the Iraq War but also for the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

“The World Trade Center came down during your brother’s reign. Remember that," Trump said to the former Florida governor, prompting a long, contentious back-and-forth. In a state that’s home to a large number of military installations and veterans, the supercharged showdown between two candidates who’ve been sparring for months could play big, potentially reordering the race in the final week.

Jeb Bush slams Trump's view of history as 'just wrong'

“The simple fact is that when we were attacked, my brother created an environment where for 2,600 days we were safe,” he said of then-President George W. Bush. “No one attacked us again. “He changed the laws, he did everything necessary, he united the country and he kept us safe,” the 2016 GOP presidential contender added. “And just a tip of the hat to that and moving on to what the threats are today is what we ought to be focused on.” In the last week Trump has repeatedly suggested that more decisive action could have prevented the bloodshed in September 2001. Trump said that he is not "blaming" anyone for 9/11 but that the attacks happened on George W. Bush's watch. Jeb Bush said Trump's statements show his lack of leadership. “We need someone that understands the grave threats and America’s leadership in the world,” he said. “Donald Trump is not a serious candidate as it relates to foreign policy,” Bush added. “It’s about policies. It’s about a strategy.”

 (i.e. Jeb Bush's argument is that after they attacked us they kept us safe which is just ludicrous... and what a tyrant would day)

Donald Trump Blames George W. Bush for 9/11Jeb fought back.

Trump and Jeb Argue About George W. Bush, Iraq, and 9/11
Donald Trump and Jeb Bush exchanged some heated words about George W. Bush's responsibility for 9/11, the war in Iraq, and the current instability of the Middle East.

Trump Continues To Call Out Bush For 9/11

Donald Trump is bucking conventional wisdom in the Republican Party, and is not facing any negative consequences for it. He has repeatedly said that George W. Bush did not keep the country safe, and cites the 9/11 attacks as evidence. His poll numbers haven’t dipped at all for these comments. Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Do you agree with Trump about Bush keeping us safe? Let us know in the comments below. Read more here: http://www.salon.com/2016/02/16/donal... “The latest Republican debate in South Carolina was instructive for several reasons. First, it was a reminder that the gloves are clearly off. As the post-New Hampshire field narrows, the candidates are desperate to solidify their position. Any pretense of civility is gone, as the race shape-shifts into a mud-slinging cage match. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, in particular, have become openly contemptuous of each other. And there is certainly no love lost between Trump, Cruz and Bush. More importantly, now that we’ve seen the first post-debate polls in South Carolina, it’s also apparent that Donald Trump is unstoppable – if that wasn’t already evident. The Republican Party has a host of treasured illusions, untruths that are just too convenient to surrender – America is a Christian nation, trickle-down economics works, climate change is a liberal phantasm, Republicans are better at balancing budgets, and so on. To live in the conservative bubble is to know all of these things are true, irrespective of the facts.”

Now, while Trump didn't say anything about science of the facts of 9/11 (as is traditional in GOP politics), JUST touching upon it was enough to win over the 9/11 crowd (I was one of the few suspicious ones and am yet to be proven wrong that Trump will bring down the 9/11 traitors i.e. the Bushs and Cheneys). Alex Jones, who think we were being ruled by aliens, didn't even hesitate (and he may be right! *fingers crossed*). Here are Alex Jones videos of the event which 9/11 truthers tend to think of as true, i.e. 9/11 truther BELIEVE Trump will bring out the SCIETIFIC truth of 9/11!)


Jeb Fears Trump knows Who Was Behind 9/11 Attacks!

This video reflects what millions of people think about Trump because of his association to 9/11 (other issues become irrelevant when faced with the possibility of exposing 9/11 and this will remain so... for me and many others)

9/11 History

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