Feb 23, 2014

Liberal Libertarian Analysis of Ron Paul 1 - "Warfare, Welfare, and Wonder Woman — How Congress Spends Your Money"

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Ron Paul's article is from here. Ron Paul's words are in italic followed by my explanations;

Supporters of warfare, welfare, and Wonder Woman cheered last week as Congress passed a one trillion dollar “omnibus” appropriation bill. This legislation funds the operations of government for the remainder of the fiscal year. Wonder Woman fans can cheer that buried in the bill was a $10,000 grant for a theater program to explore the comic book heroine.

Funny that the Federal government has so much money to spend that they seem to give it away frivolously (especially if you don't like Wonder Woman or don't consider super heroes to be a part of American Culture worth exploring or sponsoring). On the other hand if this theater production leads to a movie and becomes a part of pop culture it could be seen as contributing to the diversity of American Society which is what distinguishes it from less diverse societies such as a Communist Society where diversity is but necessity limited by central planning. Since a grant allows a private person to do something without Government oversight it's a modern equivalent to receiving a boon from the Emperor such as that tradition of past centuries which allowed people like Galileo and Leonardo Da Vinci to work and leave us thier knowledge or like the grant Columbus received using which he discovered America. The issue becomes WHO should pick the ones giving grants or if the Federal Government should even be involved in promoting knowledge or exploration of culture or research. This debate I has yet to occur or I haven't heard of it yet and will cover it later.



That is just one of the many outrageous projects buried in this 1,582 page bill. The legislation gives the Department of Education more money to continue nationalizing education via “common core.” Also, despite new evidence of Obamacare’s failure emerging on an almost daily basis, the Omnibus bill does nothing to roll back this disastrous law.


I agree that these bills are way too long. They should be short bills dealing with one issue at a time so there can be public knowledge of it and a debate if necessary. This can only be achieved slowly and with allot of work for the legislative branches who are more concerned with elections most of the time than anything else. I think it would be a good idea to limit everyone in the Senate and Congress to one term to keep them focused on work with strict oversight to prevent some of the corruption which has become systemic in the Federal Government which reached extremes under Bush that never before or since has been surpassed (NSA was made official with the Patriot Act with huge public and legislative and conservative support):


Example of corruption: Sex for oil dealings...




Even though the Omnibus bill dramatically increases government spending, it passed with the support of many self-described “fiscal conservatives.” Those wondering why anyone who opposes increasing spending on programs like common core and Obamacare would vote for the bill, may find an answer in the fact that the legislation increases funding for the “Overseas Continuing Operations” — which is the official name for the war budget — for the first time since 2010. This $85 billion war budget contains $6 billion earmarked for projects benefiting Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, and other big defense contractors.


Since corporations stand to make allot of money from Federal Government bills & laws they will obviously apply thier resources to public relations campaigns to bring public opinion to favor them. All of the media is under corporate control which means all the people on corporate boards and big shareholders and can move corporate policy are open the the SAME corruption possibilities as the federal Government.



Ever since “sequestration” went into effect at the beginning of last year, the military-industrial complex’s congressional cheering session has complained that sequestration imposed “draconian cuts” on the Pentagon that will “decimate” our military — even though most of the "cuts" were actually reductions in the "projected rate of growth." In fact, under sequestration, defense spending was to increase by 18 percent over ten years, as opposed to growing by 20 percent without sequestration.


A great deal of military expenditure is non-transparent. Given the history of drug dealing and other factors I don't believe the military should have classified information except in an immediate operation. Problem is the Pentagon and/or CIA has convinced everyone that we are in some sort of perpetual war since WW2 (cold war and now the, lets say, schizophrenic 'war on terror' for which logic is suspended for blind faith). All that said, there is only so much people can handle at one time. Proof is that what little of the Obama Administration has come to light, INHERITED FROM THE BUSH-CHENEY ADMINISTRATION - has left the public disoriented and paranoid. Especially in the South where fear is the main political tactic/strategy as per the rights Southern Strategy (which Fox News & Biz has convinced it's followers it's not using and it is believed despite all history and evidence to the contrary... in fact, the Republican 'war on science' may be explained by the fact that science - or knowledge of any sort except blind faith - will be disastrous for it's platform and thus winning elections).

A start to reducing the Pentagon's budget would be getting rid of all these excess military bases... 



I'm sure they have invented faster missilesplanes and drones by now making all these bases redundant unless there is a secret plan for American Empire (forbidden by the Constitution) OR the military is being used to make money overseas i.e. immoral AND unconstitutional (and not just from the CIA's heroin smuggling).


Note: I don't think the debt bubble is as bad as Ron Paul makes it out to be especially since public support for that idea comes from a faulty study(which means the debt bubble isn't an IMMEDIATE concern, it's something Ron Paul has been talking about with the same ferocity for 30 years - he may eventually be proven right so something has to be done I just think things should be organized on a ladder of importance and not thrown up in the air for the war party to take advantage of to cause more problems). It seems more like this idea of a debt bubble is being used by the conservative right to push policies whose immediate effect would be death of US Citizens which technically, as per the US Constitution, constitutes "war on Citizens" (i.e. treason as per article 3 section 3). It makes more sense to find a way to improve society and make any cuts with a plan to help people as well. Simply allowing them to die using a faulty study seems crazy and heartless. It's also why I think Conservative Libertarianism is a misnomer as you can't make war on US Society and declare it's for it's freedom in the same breath... unless you are schizophrenic or simply don't understand what you are talking about.



Many of the defenders of increased war spending are opponents of welfare, but they are willing to set aside their opposition to increased welfare spending in order to increase warfare spending. They are supported in this position by the lobbyists for the military-industrial complex and the neoconservatives, whose continued influence on foreign policy is mystifying. After all, the neocons were the major promoters of the disastrous military intervention in Iraq.


What if I said the Neo-Cons took over in 2001 and ended transparency forever so we would never know that they are really in-charge? Notice how investigations took place under Bush-Cheney (there was never a real investigation and even less accountability than the Obama Administration!):


While many neocons give lip service to limiting domestic spending, their main priority remains protecting high levels of military spending to maintain an interventionist foreign policy. The influence of the neocons provides intellectual justification for politicians to vote for ever-larger military budgets — and break the campaign promises to vote against increases in spending and debt.

This is quite simply true. IN the following video you will notice that during the last stimulus debate the main argument Fox News put forward was that spending is bad because of the dis proven study on debt bubbles BUT spending on war was fine. In other words, spending IS the answer they just want to spend money on stuff that kills people so they corporations they support can make money (i.e. war machine manufacturers and oil companies).


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At 1:21 - Hannity explains it was WW2 that got the economy out of a depression and he is right. The extra war spending boosted the related industries and the draft took care of the excess population. I don;t think that's a good solution for our time as starting another World War is stupid (which may be why there is a war on terror and why Iran wants the Nuclear Option as the GOP is pushing war strategies and collapsing the economy to attain those goals so ultimately, unless they go to prison after a transparent investigation, they will succeed).



Fortunately, in recent years more Americans have recognized that a constant defense of liberty requires opposing both war and welfare. Many of these Americans, especially the younger ones, have joined the intellectual and political movement in favor of limiting government in all areas. This movement presents the most serious challenge the bipartisan welfare-warfare consensus has faced in generations. Hopefully, the influence of this movement will lead to bipartisan deals cutting both welfare and warfare spending.

I agree and disagree (also explained above). The current solution by the "conservative libertarians" is to let both go and let society fall while the conservative libertarians implicitly support the war party side. Ultimately thier actions WILL lead to more war (as the side they are supporting is the GOP and Rand Paul will never win Jeb Bush will - it's pre-destined, so to speak - and after opposing the Democrats for so long the Conservative Libertarians will be unconsciously pulled to support the war party and thus they will hand the American Constitution it's final defeat as I don't see America returning back form the abyss if it has to suffer through another GOP Administration). IN fact, they may get thier ideal of less welfare with the war so in total even more people will die than they intended and it will be on thier heads whether they have the emotional maturity to accept it or not.

This is the problem with a shallow perspective on how actions must be taken to accomplish goals. Having blind faith in an outdated 'golden age' perspective on ones past is actually very common to all forms of religious fundamentalism and as such is easily manipulated using boogie men as fear is it's main motivator and an escape from the present to some remote past. I'm not sure if Ron Paul understands how much American Society was founded on Liberal ideals of the founding fathers or the financial structure that gave American Financial Freedom it's birth. If he understands them I have to question his implementation of his current strategy as creating more problems than solving them.

The problem is constitutional adjustments made during war which need to be brought back to normal levels but as yet haven't been. The IRS is a separate issue and should be left for some later time. All issues can't be dealt with at once without causing serious damage to peoples lives and the structure of society that helps people live.



The question facing Americans is not whether Congress will ever cut spending. The question is will the spending be reduced in an orderly manner that avoids inflecting massive harm on those depending on government programs, or will spending be slashed in response to an economic crisis caused by ever-increasing levels of deficit spending. Because politicians are followers rather than leaders, it is ultimately up to the people what course we will take. This is why it is vital that those of us who understand the dangerous path we are currently on do all we can to expand the movement for liberty, peace, and prosperity.

Here I agree. The sequester cuts hurts people and a 'machine' i.e. US Citizens and the Pentagon. The fact that one side is backing US Citizens and the other side is backing the war machine with both parties being supported by relevant corporations and NOT individuals is the military-industrial complex which exists in the shadows but whose influence seems to run everything through manipulation of public opinion. It is true... running the country through corporations and a war machine while trying to maintain economic prosperity is challenge that the military-industrial complex seems destined to fail and if it still has power when that happens we could all fall with them.



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Done.

Ponderings 6 - As soon as you defend a side...

As soon as you defend a side you become seen as a part of it. Apparently most people can only see 2 sides to everything.

Even language has that perspective of polarity. Tall & short. Hot and cold. Everything is like a scale with just 2 sides on which all of experience must be rated.

Feb 22, 2014

Ponderings 5 - An "Artist" is so tortured...

An "Artist" is so tortured because everything they treasure is also in their past.

Ponderings 4 - Will Anyone Ever Tell The Republicans That The Nazis Would ONLY Vote For Them?

It's strange that after calling all liberals "Nazis" including the Democratic President Obama - who for the first time is a black man which is like the visual fulfillment of Nixon's Southern Strategy that won him the election (which creates it's own opportunities and problems) - the ACTUAL lineage of the Nazis, now called the Neo Nazis, ALL vote Republican... and even seem to be the hidden leaders of the Tea Party.

I think it has something to do with lack of self-reflection and self-awareness that seems to be rampant in the GOP base. A stark example is that of Megyn Kelly who - following in Glenn Beck's footsteps - cursed out the Liberals for years till someone got shot than changed thier tune overnight... and, like fish, the Fox News watchers gobbled up everything they were told without any memory; i.e. ...



A REAL Nazi can never be anything but a Christian (It's why Nazi scientists were absorbed into US Society so easily after WW2 and possibly why Neo Nazism is such a strong movement - especially within the Republican Party - today). Though often, as atheism is a reaction to Christianity/Religion, atheists do act in an intolerant manner which gives further weight to a Christian (& thus the Republican Media i.e. Fox News) view that they are being unreasonable. The fascinating thing is that they are often reflections of each other. That said atheists are ultimately more likely to see reason and be tolerant than a religious person who is convinced about thier beliefs whether they are scripturally accurate or not.



Ponderings 3 - The Emergence Of The Cult Of Capitalism

People see themselves as Capitalists the way they see themselves as "Christian" or "White". It's become like a cult with beliefs & GOP is thier leader. Earlier understandings of Capitalism (from the, mostly forgotten,WW2 era) where increases in the wage where considered to be part of the boons of American Capitalism has been lost because the meaning of capitalism no longer includes fairness (somehow 'all capitalists are good' has become the underlying assumption of all Republican arguments - Interesting side note: Carl Jung warns us that this is where society in heading back in the 1950's based on his observations of living through the World Wars in his book The Undiscovered Self). It's like people have read so much Ayn Rand that they sympathize with the mean streak of unregulated capitalism. A sort of sad-masochistic idealism towards what it means to be a "Capitalist".


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Extract:

"It used to be that conservatism was a hard-headed set of ideas rooted in reality.
Unlike the abstract theories of Marxism and socialism, it started not from an imagined society, but from the world as it actually exists.

"This is the way things work," conservatives would patiently explain to wooly headed liberal professors. "Whatever you may want it to look like, this is what it really looks like."
But consider the debates over the economy these days. The Republican prescription is cut taxes - slash government spending, then things will always bounce back.

Now, I would like to see lower tax rates in the context of simplification and reform, but what is the actual evidence that massive tax cuts are the single best path to revive the U.S. economy? Taxes as a percentage of GDP are at their lowest levels since 1950. The U.S. is among the lowest taxed of the big industrial economies.

So the case that America is grinding to a halt because of high taxation is not based on facts, either past or present. It is simply a theoretical assertion.

The rich countries after all are in the best shape right now with strong growth and low unemployment are ones like Germany, Denmark and Canada - none characterized by low taxes.
"


The key to understanding why Republicans have become so dependent on personal budgeting allegories has to do with a dis proven study (following junk science seems to be a Republican "Capitalist" Cult thing!)

Austerity's Spreadsheet Error - Graduate student Thomas Herndon identifies little staggering omissions in a prominent academic paper, "Growth in a Time of Debt." (04:19):


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Feb 10, 2014

Ponderings 2 - World War 2... A Christian Civil War?


The more I think about it the more World War 2 seems like a Christian Civil War.




What Hitler tried to do was no less than what Constantine actually accomplished (Was Hitler following in Constantine's footsteps?). If Hitler had won would we be talking of Hitler like an emperor of Christianity like we do with Constantine?

In any case, Hitler followed certain verses of the Old Testament;

Numbers 31: 17-18
17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

 And since what a Christian group believes is pretty much dependent on thier pastor, the Nazis do constitute a valid Christian group. Also, acceptance of Nazi scientists in Texas makes even more sense.

Feb 8, 2014

Ponderings 1: Reason brings isolation...

'Reason' brings independence & isolation (Liberals/West). 'Emotionality' brings community & group thinking(Conservatives/East). #Ponderings

Feb 6, 2014

The Differences & Commonalities Between Muslim & Christian Religious Fundamentalism


There is allot of confusion between Islam and Christianity because Islamists assume the Christians follow thier scripture exactly and because Christians don't understand what having life dictated by scripture rather than a collection of endorsed beliefs is like.

To a Muslim the Quran is the word of God so religious tolerance (i.e. tolerance for other peoples beliefs that are not outright insulting the Muslims beliefs) is actually easy because once you say that 'the Quran says this' if it is written there it is 'written' and that is that. For example to protect your religion all you have to do is quote these verses to a Islamic Religious Scholar (not a mob... you can't talk to a mob of any religion, for example; the Salem witch hunts).:

 "There is no compulsion in religion" (Quran 2:256)


Surah Al-Ma'idah verse 48 states:
If Allah so willed, he would have made you a single People, but his plan is to test each of you separately, in what He has given to each of you: so strive in all virtues as in you are in a race. The goal of all of you is to Allah. It is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute. (The Quran 5:48)
Surah Al-Ankabut verse 46 states:
And dispute not with the People of the Book, except with means better than mere disputation, unless I be with those of them who inflict wrong and injury, but say to them: "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our God and your God is one; and it is to Him that we bow." (The Quran 29:46) {Note: People of the book are Jews and Christian AT THE VERY MINIMUM}

By seeking to make the Muslims world stable, the US over-engaged itself in that region (mostly due to the cold war) and managed to make the one clause in the Quran viable i.e. 'if a Muslim is oppressed he is commanded to fight back till they are no longer oppressed' and although some reasons for fighting against 'western oppressors' lack logic this lack of sanity is even more common in the West as the right in the US has proven beyond a doubt the difference is simply that there is no RELIGIOUS persecution as the Muslims reason for fighting, i.e. the Muslims would like to convert others to Christianity, especially when they see missionaries constantly babbling at them, but they won't make it thier life's mission because that's not allowed... but if they OR any of thier fellow Muslims are attacked THEN they are allowed to defend themselves. A Christian will always say, 'well, we are more evolved of a religion cause Jesus said Turn Thy Cheek' that's a silly assertion as Genocide is actually a more common occurrence amougnst the Christians and except for the early Christians who really did 'Turn thy check' as Jesus commanded and were thrown to the lions I don't think any Christian Nation on the world stage has EVER done such a thing. Constantine literally used Christian symbolism to give credibility to his Empire and during the Dark Ages the Pope started a Crusade long after the Muslims assault was over. So while Muslim leaders may have been as cruel as Christian one, outright extermination of people with other beliefs is a more Christian tradition than a Muslim one so when Christian think Muslims are persecuting them for thier faith they are really just imagining the Muslims are like them which is a fallacy.

Why this dichotomy? I has to do with the Christians lack of belief in thier scripture. While a Muslim follows scripture a Christian follows thier leader that's why they emphasize being a 'flock of sheep' cause that's how they have historically been taught to function. When you ask 'why it is OK to eat Pork or get tattoos or weave two types of cloths together which is forbidden in the book of Leviticus' he/she gets a reply 'because Jesus came and abrogated past laws' ...

but when you ask 'so why do you persecute gays when that's also in the Book of Leviticus AND Jesus said nothing about gays especially when you aren't following the other laws of the Book of Leviticus' you draw a blank. The question simply doesn't penetrate. To a Muslim this is very confusing as they follow scripture so they think the Christians scripture has been corrupted and they have gone made when in reality the answer is simpler than that... Christian NEVER read thier scripture. Is is read for them by a 'chosen one' who then guides them from thier. These MAJOR cultural differences cause major problems in International Relations.

Here are a variety of Biblical quotes that will either A) Get a denial from a Christian 'it's Not in the bible' or B) silence with possibly some of the schizophrenic nonsense of Jesus having made ignoring that particular law OK while not others all for random reasons EXCEPT for the believer him or her self... who believes what they do without question OR research.

Christian Scripture Not Followed (well mostly, well, not intentionally anyways):

1. Leviticus 19:27 “‘Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.

2. Leviticus 5:2 "'Or if a person touches anything ceremonially unclean--whether the carcasses of unclean wild animals or of unclean livestock or of unclean creatures that move along the ground--even though he is unaware of it, he has become unclean and is guilty

3. Leviticus 11:7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you.

4. Leviticus 11:9 "'Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales.

5. Deuteronomy 22:9 Do not plant two kinds of seed in your vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit of the vineyard will be defiled

6. Deuteronomy 22:11 Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together.

7. Leviticus 19:19 "'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.

Hosea 13:16 (King James) Samaria will bear her guilt because she has rebelled against her God.
They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.

Numbers 31: 17-18
17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.

Psalm 137:8-9
8 O daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
9 O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock!


Basically what a Christian "leader" does is pick and choose which laws he or she will follow by using the quotes below to make his chosen obsoletes valid while he is never questioned on what he or she chooses to implement as questioning is not allowed within the Christian institution itself (unlike the Muslim one where is not only allowed but encouraged and only during educational dark ages does it get out of hand like when the Christian Nazi movement took over Europe, ex 'the pen is mightier than the sword'):

The following quotes make it possible to allow pork, tattoos and making different kinds of cloth but somehow - mysteriously - doesn't apply to gays:

Matthew 5:17: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." (ex. thou shalt not kill)

Matthew 22:36-40
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.



Notes on Commonalities

Where a Christian and Muslim fundamentalist or hate group find common ground is in the 'seeking escape from ones-self that is necessary for 'true belief':

This is from the preface of his book, The True Believer;

"All mass movements generate in their adherents a readiness to die and a proclivity for united action; all of them, irrespective of the doctrine they preach and the program they project, breed fanaticism, enthusiasm, fervent hope, hatred and intolerance; all of them are capable of releasing a powerful flow of activity in certain departments of life; all of them demand blind faith and single hearted allegiance." 

To start a fundamentalist religious group (or a non-religious one) blind obedience without question is necessary. If people are educated with history and the sciences in a way where it becomes integrated with their perception then lying to them becomes very difficult. If someone with religious authority lies to them, it will hurt to have someone they like lying to them but they will do what is right...eventually, once they are sure. 



2. American Foreign Policy of the Bush Era can be summarized thusly:

"The ideal devil is a foreigner. Hitler—the foremost authority on devils—found it easy to brand the German Jews as foreigners." (pp. 92-93)

3. Lets remove the 'we have free speech' and Muslim world doesn't nonsense from the debate as this is typically an old world VS New World - and educational - phenomenon.  The religious right in the US is working hard on removing the Constitutional divide between Church and State with the help of traditional Evangelical orthodoxy (who operate beyond the teachings of Jesusand in the old world the meaning of 'sacred' means something that is holy. Whether is be the scripture of a Muslim OR a decree of the emperor such as displayed in Shanghai Noon where Jackie Chan bows helplessly before another palace guard reading him the Emperors decree and then Wilson says 'this is the New-World/America we are free from such things'. That is what people don't often understand i.e. the split between the old and new worlds goes back millennia and included all of Europe as well (remember the Inquisition? or WHY the people fled Europe for America in the first place?). So no more Glenn Beck or Bill O Reilly logic that Christian America is somehow more tolerate than the Muslims. If 30% of the future of America weren't Atheist I shudder to think where America would be today.

In the New World, to allow the various sects of Christianity and other cults such as Quakers or the later Mormons and other various Christian groups who are more often at odds with every other Christian group around them and the Constitutional separating between Church and State helps these different sects to co-exist.

The new Western trend towards free speech is not as developed as people like to think and is allot more fragile than people like to think (except for some reason when it involves members of ones own religious group who can say stuff they would never allow others to say). Especially when you take into account the almost continuous media blackouts on important issues of the day. How long before a GOP President returns to power, claims to be doing God's work and proceeds to destroy American society with their lies and false wars and thier ability to remove science from the mind of it's Journalists (and thier ability to scare them into silence WHENEVER they so choose) so that all they know is what they hear from thier preferred "echo chamber" but not around emotional issues that they can't face (especially involving how architecture works for example: How can a Modern Skyscraper fall from a light fire when even heavy fires can't make a modern building fall like a pancake - it's unprecedented, or it was till everyone knew it was possible and were told so -  and this is just concerning the building that wasn't hit by a plane. A closed mind or worse)?



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Update Sep 13: I heard some woman on Hannity say 3:15 of the Muslim's Quran was about killing people for fun (or something in that context). Here are the verses from 3:15 & 3:50 (in case I misheard it).


3:15

Say, "Shall I inform you of [something] better than that? For those who fear Allah will be gardens in the presence of their Lord beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally, and purified spouses and approval from Allah . And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants -

&

3:50

And [I have come] confirming what was before me of the Torah and to make lawful for you some of what was forbidden to you. And I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so fear Allah and obey me.